CPM S110V seems to perform well in a 400-600 grit type edge, and can be hardened to around 61-62 Rc. I don't just say that because I use it. Top. These knives are their pride an they’ll probably perform like monsters. If you are lucky like with Patriot Manly you can even find a CPM (powdered) steel in this price range however the above is a guideline for proper steels in this price class. A few knives under €100,- will offer a leather sheath with proper thick leather. Their price comes not from the steel per se but often from the amount of time that is put into the finish of the knife. Solo Survival: How to Survive Alone in the Wilderness for 1 week --Eastern Woodlands - Duration: 34:07. – Fallkniven You’ll often find more exotic woods like Olive wood, walnut wood or burls with crazy wood patterns which are pretty expensive to begin with. The same thing goes for 1075, 420HC and Aus-8… it can be decent but most of the times simply isn’t. Eli Chaps Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member. Favorite. Steel types: Perfect edges, perfect fits, nice decorations etc. All these factors play a huge role in choosing your ideal blade. Most of the above knife makers / brands offer knives in a lower price class as well but have some of their more high end or prestige knives in this price category. Take care in packing these knives because knives can more easily fall out of the sheaths. These damascus blades are pure decorative and not useful at all. Careers / Employment Opportunities Free. – 80CrV2 – CPM-3V This is caused by improper sheath design / fit. These handle materials can be very very expensive though. ZDP–189’s weaknesses have always been in the form of stain tendencies and chipping, and M390 fixes both. Another thing to keep in mind is that the HRC hardness is often not mentioned on these ‘bad buys’. Most sharpening difficulties arise when you need to remove a substantial amount of metal when thinning a bevel or repairing a severely damaged edge. – Patriot Manly (Hand made!) Tom McElroy-Wild Survival Recommended for you – 9Cr15(MoV) – Storm3DKnives Rockstead HIZEN-ZDP Japanese Folding Knife 2.875" ZDP-189 Mirror … $760.00 ADD. $120.00. There are a lot more quality brands but the above are some names I think deliver a very good quality knives. 4,458. It is indeed Mar 12, 2017 #7. adamrockcrawler Gold Member Gold Member. 21 posts Previous; 1; 2; Cambertree Member Posts: 1358 Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:48 pm Location: Victoria, Australia. Post by Cambertree » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:30 am . Both are very rare, however. hide . – Thick leather sheaths (around €100,- class). The Endura is a great platform btw. This is a pretty hard category. I think I've carried the K390 more in those few months than I carried the ZDP in years. Some knife makers prefer simple sheaths while some like to decorate them with leather stamps. – Expensive: Bloody beautiful and decent to bloody crazy €200 – €3000,-). Oct 26, 2011. Product Description. I've had a Delica in ZDP for a few years and a Delica in K390 for a few months. Steel types: ZDP-189 is a stainless steel often used by Rockstead Knives, a company known to make some of the sharpest knives on the market. Custom knife makers often love to put exotic materials in their handles. Hope you like it! Kydex sheaths are a popular low maintenance option that offers good retention. Fallkniven is a brand who focusses on low maintenance knives for cold and wet conditions. Last but not least you can find damascus knives in this category. They turn their knives into art. Steel Will for example does a decent job using these steels but then again… most of the knives that use an ”MoV” steel suck. K390; VG-10; Wood; Handle Material (knives) (5): G10; Pearl; Steel; Wood; Synthetic; Lock Type (1): Lockback; Blade Style (5): Drop Point; Hawkbill; Leaf Shaped; Spear Point; Wharncliffe; Blade Length: 0" to 2" 2" to 3" 3" to 4" 4" to 5" 5" to 10" 10" to 15" 15"+ Go; Spyderco Dragonfly Folding Knives. Not all knives in these price range are hand made though. Sheaths BladeForums has ZERO TOLERANCE for extremism or calls of violence. Sometimes these cheap knives even make use of a combination like mixing wood and micarta or on of the previous two with a good looking brass / steel bolster. Knives can most of the times be put in one of the following categories: K390 is … – 12c27 https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-has-a-zero-tolerance-policy-towards-threats-of-violence-extremism-be-warned.1769537/, Spyderco Delica showdown, M390 vs ZDP-189 edge retention testing. Making these more expensive handles often result in the use of a very cheap steel with perhaps no heat treatment at all. – ZDP – 189 – Cowry X – K390 – Vanadis 4 Extra / CPM-4V – CPM M4 – D2 – O1 – Much more. – Bark River koenigsegg wrote: ↑ Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:56 am. $165.00 $115.50. The most important thing to look for in this price class is the build quality. The massive amount of carbon in ZDP-189 effectively ‘pairs up’ with the chromium to form carbides which leaves less ‘free chromium’ to battle corrosion. Spyderco Delica 4 Lightweight 7.15" Signature Folding Knife with 2.90" Flat-Ground Steel Blade and High-Strength FRN Handle - PlainEdge Grind Spyderco Delica 4 Lightweight Signature Folding Knife with 2.90" ZDP-189 Steel Blade and British Racing Green FRN Handle - PlainEdge - C11PGRE Rockstead SHIN-ZDP Japanese Folding Knife 3.5" ZDP189 Mirror Fini… $1190.00 ADD. I’ll try to define knives in all categories and what you will most likely find in these categories. The ”ugly and pretty good” is a small category and focussed on practicality and quality instead of overall looks. Re: Hap40 vs zdp189 vs k390. I don't just say that because I use it. … Forum rules. It’s how the world works. To not divide this guide into too many categories I’ll stick with cheap and expensive where everything under €100,- is considered ‘cheap’. Knives in this category are still often mass produced by machines or are partially finished by human hands. The cheap category is a hard one. S110V chipped consistently for me, K390 has not chipped. – Wooden sheaths (Japan) – Mammoth teeth Discuss Spyderco's products and history. – Quality often decorated thick leather K390. Spyderco Sage 1 Cool Gray G10 Satin Maxamet Liner Lock Folder C123GPGY ... ZDP-189 7 … You are browsing the internet looking for a good knife to go camping, start bushcrafting, take on your hike or just because you want a good knife… a few thousand results pop up.. some cheap… some crazy expensive. – Quality / thick leather If you want top of the line Edge Retention and Wear Resistance then you want one of these ultra premium steels! I run it at 15 DPS and it is beautiful. Jun 11, 2020 #8. Mass production brands will have their crème de la crème knives and their limited edition knives in this price class as well. The lamination process (sandwiching a core steel between 2 softer steels) is pretty expensive to do but will add a lot more flexibility to a knife making it less likely to break. Manufactured by Böhler-Uddeholm, K390 MICROCLEAN® is a state-of-the-art cold work tool steel produced by the particle metallurgy process. – K720 Most of the knives in this category will come in good quality leather sheaths or at least have the option to get one. These knives are often between €100,- and €250,-. It had a good reputation in the local market due to highly creative designs, best printing quality and timely delivery. In Stock. And a whole bloody lot more…. Handle Materials: BTW...In daily use, having a high hardness might seem a winner, but when it comes to sharpening, not always fun. The Spyderco Stretch started as a pet-project lockback knife design. – Stabilized woods The 4 color printing machine was added in 2015, with latest up-to-date technology to scale up the printing operations, and undertake all kinds of Commercial works. Saber to ffg will have a difference BTE. 995. Search Advanced search. My previous favorite user was a Spyderco Manix2 lightweight in S110V (USA made), but my daughter wanted it. – Much more. Using no BS materials they make some very high quality knives. The ZDP holds a great edge but I always found it challenging to resharpen it, therefore I'm reluctant to use it. while … – Autine tools (Custom) – Sandrin Knives (Custom) CPM S90V . Portions of the following content are served by a 3rd party. Keep in mind that these often softer woods needs care like oiling. – Simple woods. What is good and what is bad is not always very clear. Take good care in researching the knife you want to buy because leather sheaths in this price class are often thin cheaply made. Can't wait for the Seki k390 models and I want a lw … Wrong. The CPM S90V Steel is a very high Carbon steel as you’d expect. when I make the order he said roughly 180 euros but depends on the steel fit 87 ($56.87/in) $84.95 … Forum rules. A few knives in this category will have wooden handles. – CPM S30V ZDP-189 is a Japenese Premium or Super high-end Stainless Steel. As you might expect, the small alloy addition differences between ZDP-189 and Cowry-X are not expected to make a significant difference in properties between the two. Also unlike ZDP-189, M390 is widely available, though it is pretty darn expensive. – CAD Donati Knives (Custom knife maker). I’ve even seen stabilized corn handles… Stabilized burls and grainy woods are most popular making each knife unique in looks. Both are very sturdy and practically maintenance free. Isn't it just that... a cute little knife from Spyderco. Often these knife makers have focussed on perfecting their heat treatment on these steels making them the best of what that steel can achieve. – Northmen Guild. How many are made? – Grainy woods (burls) In this price range you’ll also find laminated blades. Most common handle materials in this price range is wood and micarta. Receive updates when a new review is posted. – D2. – Kydex. Apr 20, 2018 . – Micarta Search Advanced search 76% Upvoted. Might want to get one of those while available. The plates are one thickness. Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by lieferung, Dec 19, 2020. – C100 My advice is to do some research before buying the knife. CTS™-XHP is one of the most fantastic steels on the market. Delica® 4 Stainless ... Manbug™ FRN British Racing Green ZDP-189. After cutting completely through a 25mm manira rope 1000 times, our ZDP189 blade is still more than capable of cleanly slicing through a sheet of paper. ZDP-189. – DuloKnives (Custom) Model # SP-C10FPK390 . – Micarta – Aus-6 Here's a little chart that I'm going to try and keep up with comparing knife steels. Thanks a lot mike! The handles are nothing fancy but offer a good and comfortable grip. Sort by: Spyderco folding knives using K390 steel. Knives K390 Corrosion Resistance: Decent good corrosion resistance but not the best one, K390 … Brand names are often missing. Out of stock. Spyderco Manbug Lightweight Folding Knife with 1.97" K390 Stainless Steel Blade and High-Strength Blue FRN Handle - PlainEdge - MFPK390 5 $72.80 $ 72 . In Stock . $93.00. Spyderco Ladybug with VG10 vs. Ladybug with ZDP-189 you decide... http://www.bladeops.com/Spyderco-Ladybug-Knives-s/239.htm 995. Phone: 303-279-8383 Toll-Free: 800-525-7770 Fax: 303-278-2229. Close. Also you’ll find that there are a lot of knives that would fit in between categories. – Structured / grainy woods 特にS90V、S110V、K390、ZDP189、CPM10V、MaxametとHRC硬度を次々に更新していく高硬度ナイフを 続々と手がけていて、世界のナイフ収集家も目が回る勢い。 動画サイドではスパイダルコのナ … I saw the dragonfly at 100 and thought what a deal. Like I said before. These exotic knives have their prices in the thousands… price to quality never rises in the same amount. Most of these knives fit in the price range between €200 – €3000,-. 1) How much better S90V did than K390/S110V/ZDP189 and M390/20V. This often means the knife uses 440A steel which is a very low budget steel that doesn’t hold an edge at all. Are we referencing vg10 full flat grind to k390 ffg or vg10 saber to k390 ffg? $120.00. BÖHLER M390 MICROCLEAN is a martensitic chromium steel produced with powder metallurgy. 1 ratings. Liked it? Spyderco Delica 4 C11FPK390 Folding Knife, K390 Plain Edge Blade, Blue FRN Handle. Handle Materials: DocT, lieferung and AF like this. – Brass / Steel bolsters Quality. Often simple woods with little grain textures. – 1075 I found that even the most expensive stains are good for a few years only. Are the ZDP blades being phased out/discontinued? They offer a huge variety of models, steel types and handle materials making it possible to buy a kinda unique knife (that’s even partially hand made). I'll take it. everything below would be ‘cheap’ and everything above would be ‘expensive’. You wont be needing expensive water stones to keep these sharp. Posted by 8 years ago. – Z-wear Cutting abilityA distant third factor is ease of sharpening, but it isn't too difficult to put a good edge on any steel using modern sharpening tools. – Kydex. Any thoughts or experiences with these different steels? Phone: 303-279-8383 Toll-Free: 800-525-7770 Fax: 303-278-2229. Let me start by saying this guide doesn’t even start to cover it all. Guide: Cheap VS Expensive Knives, What to buy and what to look out for! – 420HC ADD. This video documents an edge retention comparison between Maxamet and CPM 10V. Custom knife makers also fit in this category but be mindful… some do a brilliant job in heat treating (even cheaper steels like O1) while some others can make some good looking knives but goof up the heat treating process. Using K390 vs. S110V is night and day. It’s key to do your homework about a custom knife maker before you order your knife. Heat treat, blade geometry, the job at hand, and the sharpening of the blade all play a … We request your assistance dealing with this as we do not want to see the site shut down due to violent threats. – Sleipner In this category you’ll find a lot of high quality ingot steels but also more and more powdered steels (often referred to as Super Steels). – MalanikaPuukko (Custom) What materials can we often find in these type of knives? Compare. – Expensive: Bloody good and (pretty) good looking (€100 – €250,-) Steel types: M390 exhibits excellent edge retention, corrosion resistance, and high level toughness. Spyderco Delica 4 C11FSK390 Folding Knife, K390 … K390 vs M390. thanks for the summary guys…enjoyed reading…cheers, Fantastic info I approached dulo knives via email the reply was 3 months from 440C however can be a proper budget steel with the right heat treatment but simply most of the times isn’t well heat treated. – Elmax So what puts knives into these categories? – M390 DA170 likes this. Spyderco Stretch 2 Lightweight Folding Knife 3.45" ZDP189 Satin P… $220.00. Looking to buy a Spyderco Endura, but having trouble deciding whether to get the standard VG-10 or upgrade to ZDP-189 (also, the dark green handles are awesome). It always feels good to review Premium steels, especially if you wish to have it in a Knife! K390. – Combined materials. Looks are very personal but in the higher price you are much less likely to find ‘ugly’ looking knives. Buying your knife in a proper knife store instead of a tourist shop can often help a lot. What a cute little knife! – Kydex Sheaths These are often made in Pakistan and do not use a core steel. These steels are often very cheap to buy and easy to heat treat. The MoV steels are Chinese made steels. Still, it really depends on the heat treatment. In Stock. I was seriously … In this guide I’d like to introduce you to how knives are priced and what to look (out) for when buying a knife. – Lionsteel And M398 has quite a bit less toughness than that: Adapted from … These ‘bad buys’ can also often be recognised because the handle look to fancy for what you expect in this price range. 49 votes, 79 comments. This guide is to help you get a basic idea of what to look for and what to expect. (limited / special edition? – 1055 Jul 28, 2020 #22. dirc . Delica® 4 FRN Wharncliffe. ). These steels have decent edge retention and will be easy to sharpen. S30V, VG10, M4, XHP, BD1, Maxamet, 204P, H1, K390, A11, Rex45, LC200N, M390, 20CV, BD1N, S45VN. vanadium 4e steel what you guys think any suggestions. – K390 Steel types: Most cheap knives are labelled as 440-stainless. – Bark River – Micarta ‘Ugly’ is very personal and I don’t find these knives ugly at all but their focus just isn’t on their looks. From mammoth teeth to stabilized pine cones… you’ll be able to find anything in this price range. When discussing knife performance, there are two main factors: 1. 9/10 times these type of knives will come in either a flimsy nylon sheath of a flimsy leather sheath with little to no retention. However, I don’t think you can change the thickness of V4E at Dulo. 80 Sports & Outdoors Spyderco Endura 4 Flat Ground K390 Dark Cyan Blue FRN C10FPK390 . – D2 – Anything else. 4.5 inches sounds good. Normally, I prefer the highest quality steel, and most of my recent purchases are in S110V, CPM M4, S90V, or K390 steel, but I had read good reviews recommending Japanese ZDP-189 and was willing to give it a try.
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